An
ex-customs officer, a distinguished intelligence officer, a film producer ('Khosla ka Ghosla' and 'A Wednesday'), a
novelist - all rolled in one. Yes, this is B.L.Gautam. After having experimented with poetry in
Hindi and Urdu, he came up with Andy Leelu (reviewed here). It is a pleasure
having conducted an e-interview with him and I am glad to be sharing it here
with the readers of Literary Sojourn.
1. You seem to be having
both sides of your brain extremely well developed. The logical and analytical
left side, and thoughtful and intuitive right side. How do you handle both of
them which I am sure must have contradicted on several occasions?
It’s a
compliment, but let me be a little candid here. I strongly believe that we
humans are a huge pool of wasted talent. Everyone of us comes with an immense
potential. We are ‘chosen ones’ of the nature. It’s the parentage, environment , and the education that makes most of
us the ‘foot-soldiers of
creativity’, for the mediocrity
to thrive. In my innocent
belief I was a special child as most of us are, but truly speaking I was not.
It was my ‘fool’s promise’ to myself that has driven me through the thick and thin of life.
You may call it the ‘mantra of
life’ that is engrained into
one’s thinking at very early
age. You can’t break the promise you make to yourself. The much revered ‘true love’ is nothing but one’s
promise to oneself.
Brain has two side, no doubt, and most of us have one lesser
developed. I was lucky to have some amount of both, but believe me I had
neither to the level that makes one a genius. So to say ‘handle both
of them’ will be vain, it was
in fact a ‘struggle’. The struggle I have now fallen in love with.
If you can’t
contradict yourself you’re just
a depository of other’s
knowledge at the best. I was taught to be one in my school. I was considered
exceptionally intelligent when I would read a page just once and narrate it
verbatim. A time came I found such ‘photographic memory’
completely useless. Now I hardly remember anything of what I read. My mind just
takes the essence and moves on. ‘Forgetting’ is what has made me a thinker and a writer.
My mind is a clean slate when I set to think about something. For example, a minute back I had no clue what I am
going to write in answer to your question.
2. How has
the experience been for you as well as for your family in the high risk job as
customs officer ? Was moving on a calculated decision? Do you
miss the thrill of that job?
Allow me to begin with the last part of your
question. I miss it
like a first love. It has, in fact ,
become a parallel life in my thoughts. Insuppressibly, I would write a radical
article catalyzed by the disturbing events taking place on global as well as
domestic front. There are times I wrote strong letters to
the power that would be fit to jolt up the system. I doubt somebody reads them.
The portent at times was so awfully close to the events to come, I am sure
our agencies would have hounded me had they read all that. For example, a piece I
wrote on msn.com a
couple of months before the serial train blast happened in Mumbai wouldn’t have
escaped the hawks’ eye, if we really have a
half decent monitoring system; the title itself was a
loud cry-‘ Do you hear the tick Mr. Prime Minister?’
Surprisingly, the article was recently blocked. More recently when my curiosity
got me to attend a disquieting dinner hosted by
the masqueraded media to propel a sitting General into public life, I
was flabbergasted. I wrote a letter to the then Home minister which now
reads like an augury. It was ‘cognitive intelligence’, that
came to me with years of experience. And I would say “once
gone to ‘intelligence’ never comes back.”
Exposure to risk in a preventive job comes with some rewards. More
so, once you have taken the plunge there’s no looking back. It’s by choice
because these guys are hand-picked; unwilling and inefficient will either
wriggle out or will be chucked out by the system. You have to know your ‘lakshman
rekha’ which has its
flexibility and sanctity left up to you to decide since the system has imposed
an unflinching trust in you. The risk is calculated or I would say mitigated to
an extent, if you do your job with a high level of integrity. The world of
smuggling thrives on the idea of quick money, and if they find someone who is
infallible, and treats money as if it was nothing more than an evidence of
crime; the person becomes a demi-god to the community of offenders. The second
thing is the way you handle the power and respect that come with the package;
if you get carried way you are doomed. We saw it happening with many of our
officers of Customs and Police. Their dishonoring stories are in
public now. It could see it coming.
In spite of the fact that you may put your best foot forward all the
time, there is an invisible risk, always. You little know how the dices are
being played on the other side of the fence. In my case, after years of it had stealthily
come and gone, I had the revelation that a frustrated smuggler and lynchpin
named Irfan Goga had decided to knock me off. And it was another infamous don
Anees Ibrahim in Dubai who was so enamored of my honesty and simplicity that he threatened Goga of his life if
he touched me. The spat went to sow the seed of
permanent enmity between
the two sworn partners to the extent that one was finally eliminated by the
other. I was stoned for a moment when I came to know of the full script. Isn’t it spine-chilling? (laugh)
To not be perturbed of such eventualities every other day, I adopted
a philosophy. I started
taking myself a man who was dead yet alive. And I believed I have nothing more
to lose. It’s easy to say it in
words, but a very tough call when it comes to reality.
3. Why cinema and media
after a long service in customs? Is it to satisfy the urge to be in some form
of spotlight all the time?
My decision was not impulsive nor it was triggered by one single
factor. In spite of having a hidden streak of rebellion I was always an obedient son, a loving
husband and a zealously protective father, and would think many time before
taking any career decision. I had a creative person in me that would prompt me to dabble with theatre
and literature, but duty
was always first and foremost. I would be lying if I say that I had no desire
for recognition.
Recognition in my mind was always different than 15 second fame or a picture on
page 3. I always dreamt to be famous in a world that would be here after I am
gone. A Kabir fascinates me more than a celebrity politician or a film star. After more than 500
years Kabir is a household name, and he’s so relevant even today.
The thought that you get to live only once pushes me do so many
things in one life. You will be amused to know that I have been making a
serious attempt for last
thirty five years to
decipher the truth of universe. I have an adequate grasp on Quantum Mechanics
and Classical Physics to keep my quest meaningfully on. I have added the
dimensions of Vedic science to it. When a new finding in theoretical physics vindicates my postulates of Mest Theory, I feel reassured.
To put it
straight I love cinema as a creative expression, but at the same time I hate
the devious power of marketing. Media today abounds unethical practices. Lesser
said the better.
4. You are the producer of
two critically acclaimed and thought provoking films - 'Khosla ka Ghonsla' and
'A Wednesday'. Do share your intuitive feeling that led you to get actively
involved in these films?
Yes, it was pure intuition. The scripts caught me by my collar. It
was worth risking my comfortable job, both the times. I was very confident of
their commercial success, and that’s what made me to stick my neck out in spite of a terrible
resistance from the management. A few would know that I made Khosla Ka Ghosla
when I was with Zee. Everyone around in the organization thought I should, and
I would draw a flak.
Contrary to their expectation, the film shaped up well, and behold, the top-brass decided to junk
it, unceremoniously.
Corporate envy is Machiavellian, I realized. Those were painful days of my
life. It set me to rethink whether my decision to come to media was right. I
had to pass through an ordeal to see the film released. To the extent, that the
savior, in an unsavory
way, wanted his name to appear as the producer. Imagine, it was after three
years of the film was made. I had no inclination to put my name as
producer after I had dared to lock-horns with Zee on matters of ethics. But it
was a nightmare convincing other stake holders for such an unreasonable demand.
I had set my eyes only on the release of this film. That I did, and rest is
history as they say.
As if it was not enough, fate had one more round of agony in store
for me that came with A Wednesday. I had to recede from my
declared position of Producer to Executive Producer, when my boss realized that
it was a wonderful film. He had agreed to commission it with an obvious spite,
to say the least.
To bring these two films to light, I not only lost my peace of years
but a few friends too, if I still believe they were once my friends. In a
struggle for success, nobody’s
nobody’s friend. Media is a
lesson in this. Cynical may it sound.
5. How did Andy Leelu
start taking shape in your mind and how long did it take to come out with the
final product? Are you satisfied with your first book and readers' response to
it?
The genesis of Andy Leelu lies in the cynicism, or solitude, I came
by thanks to my new job. The choice was either I play the game and be at the
helms of affairs or I hang up my boots, and sit in a corner. I was not ready to accept either of the two. And I
decided to prove my worth by doing something that would need no one as a
partner or an associate. I wanted to go on a lone journey.
Writing was the only option. As luck would have it, my job took to me to ( it was alienation to be frank) Mauritius. The serenity of this
island was a right match
to my melancholy. I had company, sarcasm unintended. I fathomed my life, and
what came in revelation was a treasure of stories. It was overwhelming. I had
written poems and articles, but never a novel. Writing a novel was
intimidating. It was like cruising a vast terrain with unknown contours. The invitation had a deadly yet
alluring challenge.
I began
with my wonder years. Not only the most vivid segment of my memory, it was a
momentous period of our history. I got a hazy outline of the story in my mind.
I said, here you go, buddy!
I poured myself out. The experience
was cathartic. In around 8 months I had the first draft in hand. Getting it
published would be a mountainous hurdle, I had not realized by then. There were
trepidations and travesties, but there was also determination to overcome. It
took 4 years for Andy
Leelu to hit the stands.
6. What were the
challenges that you faced in the literary field while entering in it as an
amateur writer? Did your experience in other fields help you in any way?
The constituency in India is very small. It’s very unfortunate that we are one of the biggest country in the
world with a huge literary inheritance, yet we have a pint-sized publication
industry. In comparison to the western world, it’s almost nothing.
I had to
come to India via USA, a country I have never been to, nor have much love for.
We are greedily busy making money, and the culture is left to the
vultures. Just imagine
when a person of my resources has to struggle so much for his book to get
published where would a greenhorn go.
On other hand if you look at what is
being written here, it’s far
from inspiring. Publishing and reading go hand in hand. We are happy aping
China while US and Europe, and even Latin America is spending enormous
resources to shape up the thoughts of the world. They will be
the pioneers of the new era and we are happy to be the workforce.
7. Out of all the roles
that you have donned so far, which has given you the most pleasure?
It’s difficult to
come out with a straight, and for that matter, an honest reply. If have to,
then I will choose the
role of an intelligence officer, of course, with a rider. The rider is- only If I could have my way to deal with
the situations. And if not so, then a writer, because
here no one can stop me have my way. (laugh)
8. You have written some
verses in Hindi and Urdu as well. Are you planning to publish them too? After
having written prose and poetry both, which form of writing do you feel is more
gratifying?
I think I
am a poet first. I started with Hindi poetry. Gazal caught my fancy after I
read great shayars like Ghalib and Faiz, and of course Dushyant Kumar if I have
to name one from Hindi side. I learnt basic Urdu when I was 35. And yes like
Dushyant, I will publish just one collection of my Gazals. In shayari, if you
write more you repeat yourself. I am now more of a story teller. I have found
my last refuge there. (laugh)
9. How do you want to be
remembered as?
I take
myself a part of this organic universe. To me, independent existence is a
fallacy. So would like to be remembered as a person who lived and died for
humanity. My pains and pleasures are universal in a sense.
Closer home,
Arjun Vajpai relates his experience vividly in 'On Top of the World'. He became
the youngest Indian to scale Mt. Everest in the summer of 2010. For him the
fascination of mountains began at the tender age of 10 and his parents nurtured
his passion in tandem with the support of his teachers and friends. The hunger
and thirst for adventure drew Arjun to the mountains. His is a story of
inspiration, grit, determination and indefatigable spirit to fulfill the dreams
and his was clearly an expedition where almost everything went right from the
fitness, weather conditions to the support system.
'The Top of
the World : Climbing Mount Everest' written and illustrated by Steve Jenkins is
a picture book for very young readers - Ages 5 and up. The book briefly
explores the history, natural geography, culture, climate of Mount Everest
along with the mention of people like Mallory and Irvine, Tenzing and Hillary.
The formation of Himalayas, the weather conditions and brief introduction to
various aspects of scaling Mt. Everest including the gear and training required
and the impending threats on the way find the mention in this book. Besides
being an informative book, the beautiful cut paper illustrations make it a
visual treat for young adventurers.
'Legs on
Everest' is written by Mark Inglis, the double amputee who fulfilled his
childhood ambition to stand on the summit of the highest mountain of the world.
He achieved this feat on 15th May, 2006 braving all odds in the wake of his
peculiar condition. The frostbite from one of his previous expeditions costed
him both his legs from below the knees but it could not rob him off his dreams
rather it made him even more focused and driven to accelerate his efforts
towards the goal. In Mark Inglis words, 'Whenever you have pushed yourself to
the limit, you know you can achieve things that were once only a dream. The
more times you undertake the extreme journey, the greater your confidence that
you will attain your dreams, and the bigger your dreams become. And if you want
a bigger dream then why not go for the biggest - imagine standing on the summit
of Everest!'.
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